tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post6722164842728183872..comments2024-03-18T04:47:16.199-07:00Comments on The Gray Report: Why vineyards and other farms hire illegal immigrantsW. Blake Grayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17755307711801965966noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-48519462531216334362017-03-21T10:12:40.742-07:002017-03-21T10:12:40.742-07:00Gabriel: I use both phrases. They're both accu...Gabriel: I use both phrases. They're both accurate. The last time I wrote an article where I used only "undocumented" (I did so because the only real references were in quotes), I got flak from the right.<br /><br />I'm not going to let them tell me what to write. I'm not going to let you do so either.W. Blake Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17755307711801965966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-84138812199823105292017-03-20T22:22:00.658-07:002017-03-20T22:22:00.658-07:00Undocumented workers are part of our farms and par...Undocumented workers are part of our farms and part of our communities. They are commonly referred to as "illegal", but the only illegal thing they ever did was move to Oregon twenty ago. Since then, two million white kids have move to Portland to eat at fancy restaurants and smoke legal weed. But guys who got a job on a farm, got married, and raised a family in a small town are Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13849290999060380035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-7998022329647757712017-03-17T19:52:17.868-07:002017-03-17T19:52:17.868-07:00Kent: You lost me at "no book is going to con...Kent: You lost me at "no book is going to convince me." So why should I?<br /><br />Foolish land management decisions did cause the Dust Bowl. Be unconvinced. That doesn't change the reality.W. Blake Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17755307711801965966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-37956328615351647922017-03-17T07:49:27.079-07:002017-03-17T07:49:27.079-07:00Sorry Blake, too many other more important things ...Sorry Blake, too many other more important things to do. Besides, no book is going to convince me that man can cause a 7-year drought. Despite our ability to screw things up, there are limits. I'm aware of many of the factors that magnified the impact of the drought (reduction of grassland, massive expansion of farmland, extensive tillage, etc.), but the drought would have devastated farming,Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12518530875317856476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-38380161560345058702017-03-16T15:41:33.071-07:002017-03-16T15:41:33.071-07:00Kent: Got a book for you. Read this and get back t...Kent: Got a book for you. Read this and get back to me:<br /><br />http://amzn.to/2n4jnekW. Blake Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17755307711801965966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-52319619601286061322017-03-16T14:16:27.427-07:002017-03-16T14:16:27.427-07:00Blake, just exactly how would Scott Pruitt bring a...Blake, just exactly how would Scott Pruitt bring about a 7 to 8-year span of extreme drought in the high plains of America?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12518530875317856476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-34247657476277586732017-03-16T14:05:44.933-07:002017-03-16T14:05:44.933-07:00Boris Seymour said...
Thanks the only thing left ...Boris Seymour said...<br /><br />Thanks the only thing left of the article is the workers had to sue the Amerikan govt. to final get SS they paid into. I do believe said suit last about 35yrs.<br /><br />Hal Beck what your saying is very true. One summer I drove a laser leveler tractor for one of biggest farmer corp. around the Tracy, Calif. Their legal labor came yr after yr because of good pay jo6pachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13243469700844995455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-52970182176606489892017-03-15T13:34:26.070-07:002017-03-15T13:34:26.070-07:00Yes there were abuses with the bracero program, bu...Yes there were abuses with the bracero program, but any grower who wanted skilled obreros back for the next season was a responsible employer. Word got out.<br />With no legal supply you get an illegal supply, whether it's labor, liquor or drugs.<br />So people die trying to cross the Sonoran Desert on foot after being cast adrift by a coyote. Those unwilling or unable to mule narcotics Hal Beckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15581572877473453005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-46539928815162473772017-03-14T22:09:55.363-07:002017-03-14T22:09:55.363-07:00BTW - the bracero program was exploitive: http://w...BTW - the bracero program was exploitive: http://www.versobooks.com/blogs/3125-this-time-we-fight-back<br /><br />This Time We Fight Back<br /><br />By Alfredo Gutierrez / 09 March 2017Boris Seymourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09587251517760676333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-81512946766619411152017-03-14T09:07:44.929-07:002017-03-14T09:07:44.929-07:00Agreed, very well written and of course you are go...Agreed, very well written and of course you are going to piss some people off because they won't let logic get in the way of their ideals. Most people don't think about or even want to know where their food is from, how it got here or what a tragic waste of food we have in our system. They just want perfect looking food that is the same every time even if the quality is less. It has toTacoma Wineauxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05314525559501822759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-7536148269026478092017-03-14T07:49:38.954-07:002017-03-14T07:49:38.954-07:00Very thoughtful post. And although it was off-topi...Very thoughtful post. And although it was off-topic, I really enjoyed this line: "the days of the Great Depression and the Dust Bowl. While it is possible that our new EPA director will help bring back those circumstances, it's going to take a while."Bob Rossihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08349830722788278723noreply@blogger.com