tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post6778605337990719357..comments2024-03-18T04:47:16.199-07:00Comments on The Gray Report: Cabernet's secret: The glass doesn't matter muchW. Blake Grayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17755307711801965966noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-9994482027181426342011-05-08T15:39:20.530-07:002011-05-08T15:39:20.530-07:00I've always taken cheap Cab blends to tailgate...I've always taken cheap Cab blends to tailgates because they taste just fine out of plastic cups. I hadn't considered the reason why, though.<br /><br />The only grape that I've noticed being materially affected by glass shape is Pinot. I broke down and bought a couple of the Riedel Oregon Pinot glasses (my other wineglasses are Tritan Forte), and they definitely bring out the fruit Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-15962652502224527492011-04-21T12:10:19.970-07:002011-04-21T12:10:19.970-07:00Joe: That's fascinating research.
Cabernet&#...Joe: That's fascinating research. <br /><br />Cabernet's also much tougher when it comes to winemaking; you can punch it, pump it, whatever, and it doesn't seem to suffer.W. Blake Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17755307711801965966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-23706722922104229772011-04-21T10:15:29.333-07:002011-04-21T10:15:29.333-07:00I have been teaching wine appreciation classes at ...I have been teaching wine appreciation classes at UC Santa Cruz for more than 30 years. The students bring their own wine galsses, and long ago I discovered that different students had different reactions to the same wine we were tasting that could be traced to how they washed their wine glasses. The worst was simply squirting liquid detergent in a glass, because you can't rinse off the Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16211532996850011845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-73889866720581252292011-04-21T09:36:12.064-07:002011-04-21T09:36:12.064-07:00Unfortunately my sommelier series Cabernet glass w...Unfortunately my sommelier series Cabernet glass wasn't as hardy as Cabernet itself -- it broke after I used it only once at home, while I was very carefully hand-washing it. <br /><br />Fortunately I had already conducted the experiment detailed herein and thus my heart wasn't as broken as the glass.W. Blake Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17755307711801965966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-60476509905599691212011-04-20T18:54:00.415-07:002011-04-20T18:54:00.415-07:00My wife and I went to the same SFMOMA event. I...My wife and I went to the same SFMOMA event. I'm not sure I agree with you on the ISO glass, but I do like your take on Cab's strength to withstand travel and the plastic happy hour cup. Riedel is seriously pricey, and the event was a glorified sales pitch, but it's hard to beat $35 to take home 3 of their sommelier series glasses.Chrishttp://www.youngtastebuds.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-52700233636221535742011-04-20T17:39:26.542-07:002011-04-20T17:39:26.542-07:00Respected? Really?Respected? Really?PIttsboynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-28941492287117805342011-04-20T16:19:16.678-07:002011-04-20T16:19:16.678-07:00NM: That's an interesting method. I've got...NM: That's an interesting method. I've got theories about body (or perceived body) and glass size, but I need to keep playing around with it. In short, though, I do kind of what you're doing, and have found that the best glass doesn't always match the variety it was supposedly designed for.<br /><br />Doug: You can call me W. if you like. There was some politician who devalued theW. Blake Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17755307711801965966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-18920555303800174862011-04-20T15:27:47.762-07:002011-04-20T15:27:47.762-07:00Well, I couldn't call you W. That would'v...Well, I couldn't call you W. That would've just been confusing :)!Doug Thomsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-44512975605327104022011-04-20T15:03:15.209-07:002011-04-20T15:03:15.209-07:00When serving whites, I pour a taste in both a Sauv...When serving whites, I pour a taste in both a Sauvignon Blanc glass and a Chardonnay glass, taste both then decide which to use. For red wines, I found that a Cab tastes best in a Cab glass and Pinot in a Pinot glass. For other reds, the Cab glass usually does the trick.nmonnenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08705680111941411378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-40317466686723454002011-04-20T14:03:14.847-07:002011-04-20T14:03:14.847-07:00Last commenter: You didn't give your last name...Last commenter: You didn't give your last name so I can't call you by it. Didn't your momma teach you manners?<br /><br />Re alternatives to Cab under $30: With the occasional exception of some Burgundies, Cabernet Sauvignon is the most expensive wine on most wine lists. <br /><br />It would be quicker to name other wines that also don't do well under $30 retail: Pinot Noir, W. Blake Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17755307711801965966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-47833287347006901112011-04-20T13:57:42.175-07:002011-04-20T13:57:42.175-07:00Gray,
Very thought-provoking article, as usual. A...Gray,<br /><br />Very thought-provoking article, as usual. A lot of wine grape selection by consumers is, of course, due to the branding effect of a familiar grape name rather than true taste preference. I suspect Cab Sauv was the first red grape to be popularized as a varietal in the late 70s. At the time the other reds grown in the Central Valley (Carignan, Ruby Cab, etc.) were clearly not MediumRarenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-27901143943508417542011-04-20T13:11:33.567-07:002011-04-20T13:11:33.567-07:00So I'm curious, Gray. What do you prefer as a...So I'm curious, Gray. What do you prefer as alternatives to Cabernet under $30?Dougnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-66593331517994558732011-04-20T12:45:10.572-07:002011-04-20T12:45:10.572-07:00I did my master's thesis on wine glass shape. ...I did my master's thesis on wine glass shape. For the wines I tested, I found that glass shape had little, if any, effect on the aroma of the wine. These experiments must be done without context - no guy telling you what you smell and they must be done blindfolded so the subject cannot see the glass.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18079531687162369074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-66543715321733363922011-04-20T09:07:16.059-07:002011-04-20T09:07:16.059-07:00Ha, you got me wondering as to when the last time ...Ha, you got me wondering as to when the last time I ordered a bottle of cabernet in a restaurant. I have no idea! Definitely in 1999. But more recently? There's always many higher value choices.King Krak, Oenomancerhttp://www.forkandbottle.comnoreply@blogger.com