tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post7048369034489155651..comments2024-03-18T04:47:16.199-07:00Comments on The Gray Report: Defining wine terms: Some proposalsW. Blake Grayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17755307711801965966noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-13909815658227435132010-11-16T10:26:16.071-08:002010-11-16T10:26:16.071-08:00As I posted over at Charlie Olken's CGCW blog ...As I posted over at Charlie Olken's CGCW blog - regulations usually rear their ugly heads because someone somewhere feels they are being injured by the unrestrained and improper actions of others. <br /><br />I welcome solid definitions for some of these terms. It's unfortunate that confusing usages of many of them will be grandfathered for existing brands, but over the long haul the John M. Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18343670865804216103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-31862087487954781982010-11-15T14:45:13.338-08:002010-11-15T14:45:13.338-08:00El Jefe, these are all excellent questions.
I...El Jefe, these are all excellent questions. <br /><br />I'd like to see "old vine" defined, but you point out that it's going to be difficult if not impossible.W. Blake Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17755307711801965966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-40795480578253494722010-11-15T13:58:52.602-08:002010-11-15T13:58:52.602-08:00How do you determine the age of a vine? Do you hav...How do you determine the age of a vine? Do you have to take core samples of every vine and count rings? Is a yellowed newspaper clipping that grandpa says is from 1933 that sort of looks like the vineyard in question sufficient proof? Or if you actually have some sort of record (say a receipt from a nursery in 1933), how do you know it's for real? Or even applies to this parcel? What about El Jefehttp://www.twistedoak.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-86546317740217788532010-11-12T18:21:38.162-08:002010-11-12T18:21:38.162-08:00Please change the picture, it confuses me if this...Please change the picture, it confuses me if this just cut/paste.<br />This will be very fun to see how it works out but like the last post it's be careful what you wish for.<br />jo6pacAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-79623072905875088752010-11-12T16:27:43.120-08:002010-11-12T16:27:43.120-08:00Ross: This won't be a popular position but ......Ross: This won't be a popular position but ... should a wine with a brand name called "XYZ Vineyards" actually come from those vineyards? I would say it should.<br /><br />There's only so much we can expect the TTB to rule on. I don't think they'll rule on this, any more than I expect them to require a new brand named Boone's Factory.W. Blake Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17755307711801965966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-76108144658105849562010-11-12T15:42:19.226-08:002010-11-12T15:42:19.226-08:00Your "Vineyard" definition doesn't w...Your "Vineyard" definition doesn't work for a plural label; XYZ Vineyards makes wine from grapes from multiple vineyards, not 100% from one. Since there is no implication of a single vineyard, no reason to define it.rossworknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-2302949426384532552010-11-12T10:50:28.312-08:002010-11-12T10:50:28.312-08:00Andy: It's a fair point, but I wonder how much...Andy: It's a fair point, but I wonder how much difference there is between an oak barrel and an oak tank. It's a hard one to legislate because then you also have to consider the newness of the barrels. But I do think it ought to mean fermented in wood (notice I'm not even saying oak). <br /><br />Trailer Trash: Nice nickname.<br />Keep thinking that way while the government sells you W. Blake Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17755307711801965966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-8701344580935339712010-11-12T09:28:07.468-08:002010-11-12T09:28:07.468-08:00When it comes to "barrel fermented" it&#...When it comes to "barrel fermented" it'd be good to define what a barrel is ... how much volume it holds, what it's made of, etc. Basically answer the question: at what size are you no longer talking about barrels and in fact talking about tanks?Andynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-52053455823205102632010-11-12T09:08:06.873-08:002010-11-12T09:08:06.873-08:00There is no better argument than your column that ...There is no better argument than your column that we need to fire a few government bureaucrats. <br /><br />We're not idiot. We can buy what we like. We don't need the government defining "farm." (And I'm a liberal!)The Job Search Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11660610286571821689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-74924701809032496302010-11-11T14:43:04.284-08:002010-11-11T14:43:04.284-08:00It'll be interesting to see how many producers...It'll be interesting to see how many producers will be forced to make modifications as result of the definition decisions. Who knows, it might be a good time to get into the label printing business.rhithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16099401764991161218noreply@blogger.com