tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post7422055061879779247..comments2024-03-18T04:47:16.199-07:00Comments on The Gray Report: The 10 most overrated winesW. Blake Grayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17755307711801965966noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-23487329788411892032013-11-08T04:22:21.811-08:002013-11-08T04:22:21.811-08:00Sangiovese blended with Bordeauxgrapes can be a ma...Sangiovese blended with Bordeauxgrapes can be a match made in heaven and also among the best value wines under 100$. At least if you want wines that taste great after 5 years. Supertuscans aren´t underrated at all. <br /><br />South African wines are really overrated in general and Australian Shiraz wines too.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07627884339168513324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-4427049429470841062012-04-19T02:12:17.361-07:002012-04-19T02:12:17.361-07:00I'm no wine expert so I'm probably out of ...I'm no wine expert so I'm probably out of my depth with everyone here, but I do enjoy a few bottles of wine every week. I personally think that Australian wines (the one's I've tasted anyway) are overrated, and overpriced.Robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-44903051946066890232011-05-29T23:32:56.086-07:002011-05-29T23:32:56.086-07:00Hi Blake, yes, since I responded to your August 20...Hi Blake, yes, since I responded to your August 2010 post I found and read other, more recent postings, including the one about the petition to change USDA regulations. All interesting. Thank you.Louise Hurrennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-74761420376577805502011-05-29T16:51:37.918-07:002011-05-29T16:51:37.918-07:00Louise: Since I posted this last year I have done ...Louise: Since I posted this last year I have done quite a bit more writing on organic wine. In the US, currently only wines with no sulfites are "organic," as I stated, though I have written about a petition to change that.<br /><br />The situation in Europe, as I understand it, is that the EU is fighting the exact same fight over a definition of "organic wine" -- whether or W. Blake Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17755307711801965966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-2161314293403918932011-05-29T11:51:54.187-07:002011-05-29T11:51:54.187-07:00Comment from a Brit in France: I learned something...Comment from a Brit in France: I learned something from this. What I call "organic wine" (meaning wine made from organically-grown grapes) and what Americans call organic wine are two very different things. What you need to bear in mind is that your readers are from all over the world, so terms like "organic wine" have the potential to be misunderstood. For me, wines made Louise Hurrennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-65494845639853589102011-05-29T11:24:09.586-07:002011-05-29T11:24:09.586-07:00A very refreshing article, thanks for posting! I t...A very refreshing article, thanks for posting! I tried some exceptionally good Argentinian Malbecs at the LIWF last week and they were all very good value - so I concur with what you said there.<br /><br />However, I think the quality of a lot of NZ Pinot is great value - most of the entry level PNs I have tasted from NZ are very drinkable, and much better value for the average drinker than thoseDavid Derbyshirehttp://www.oenotype.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-42969205180187031802010-10-24T16:46:54.961-07:002010-10-24T16:46:54.961-07:00I know this post is quite old by now, and I imagin...I know this post is quite old by now, and I imagine that no one except the author of the blog will ever see this post, but I'm hoping Mr. Gray (at least) sees this.<br /><br />You do a disservice to Malbec. Bordeaux isn't Malbec's home. Malbec is from, as I understand it, Cahors. If I read correctly, Cahors was long preferred to Bordeaux, but was utterly wrecked by phylloxera and The Etruscanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10221403661941748646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-50691816691078831632010-08-19T08:55:40.239-07:002010-08-19T08:55:40.239-07:00Spot on with your post and later comments Blake. ...Spot on with your post and later comments Blake. I could not agree more.<br /><br />One final note on Adam's defense of the organic wine processing standards (a topic mostly beaten to death hopefully). <br /><br />People naturally want to do things in a unique way, especially those who are young and full of energy, but another factor to consider is waste. I hope you never experience the SteveinOaklandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04298520974097333516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-13555391789180348672010-08-18T07:16:07.828-07:002010-08-18T07:16:07.828-07:00Blake, some folks just don't get the spirit of...Blake, some folks just don't get the spirit of the article. It could have been a list of 100 wines or more...<br /><br />"Ignore the Ignoramae" as Clive Coates once said to me.<br /><br />I liked it.jimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-39839883832530973012010-08-17T10:36:43.650-07:002010-08-17T10:36:43.650-07:00What about Williams Selyem pinots.
Priced way more...What about Williams Selyem pinots.<br />Priced way more then the rest of the Russian River Valley. As much as Turleys overpriced wines.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-71861640856041822002010-08-16T11:27:22.613-07:002010-08-16T11:27:22.613-07:00spot-on, sir.
- US legislation on organic wine i...spot-on, sir.<br /><br /> - US legislation on organic wine is as misguided as just about everything else most corporate congresscritters attempt to regulate. Biodynamic wines are the way forward, and there is some very major money in France being hedged on that.<br /><br /> - The cat that said that anything over $100 is overrated has never tried a good one. First of all, the dollar being Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12123640098034853856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-28105117587831410102010-08-16T10:01:01.069-07:002010-08-16T10:01:01.069-07:00Organic, shmorganic...
When you get down to it, c...Organic, shmorganic...<br /><br />When you get down to it, cyanide is also organic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-54219146522002386822010-08-13T13:21:08.645-07:002010-08-13T13:21:08.645-07:00This is a really great article and, I'm happy ...This is a really great article and, I'm happy to say, dovetails nicely with what I've said on Wine-Flair.com and in classes I've taught. <br /><br />I especially enjoyed the "mouth rinse" reference to Santa Margherita! <br /><br />The Gray Market Rules.David Gaierhttp://www.wine-flair.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-60407181874468953382010-08-11T14:11:51.571-07:002010-08-11T14:11:51.571-07:00I have to concur with you over NZ pinot noir - tha...I have to concur with you over NZ pinot noir - thanks for saying thisPaul Tudorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16564188232586411324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-21139656612549677862010-08-09T16:04:13.943-07:002010-08-09T16:04:13.943-07:00Anon: By putting ME in capital letters you have sh...Anon: By putting ME in capital letters you have shown that nobody will win this argument with you. I'm writing about value to some people; I cannot possibly know more than YOU about a wine's value to you.<br /><br />But I'll tell you what I think about rich people who buy cases of $100 wine: Thank you. Thank you for supporting the wine industry, the agricultural economy, and the W. Blake Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17755307711801965966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-9264230825240354082010-08-09T11:04:09.889-07:002010-08-09T11:04:09.889-07:00If you know how a wine that retails over $100 was ...If you know how a wine that retails over $100 was made and you know it does not taste like a $100 plus bottle of wine. What do you think about the rich guy that bought a cases of it?<br /><br />To ME wine is made to be drank, that is why when I buy expensive wines i always get three bottles: one to drink right away, the second one to drink in 6 months and the last one (if I like the wine) to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-9851943155374775402010-08-09T06:26:11.942-07:002010-08-09T06:26:11.942-07:00Jeanette
"Biodynamic happens in the vineyard...Jeanette<br /><br />"Biodynamic happens in the vineyard - not in the winery."<br /><br />True adherents will also follow BD principles in the winery such as racking day and bottling days, etc.Markhttp://www.phillywine.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-37061016288697019292010-08-08T13:27:58.755-07:002010-08-08T13:27:58.755-07:00Maybe it is the Market Up here in Vancouver, Canad...Maybe it is the Market Up here in Vancouver, Canada but NZ Pinot is better for the money for oregon Pinot [I mean most Oregon pinot is starts at 40$] That being said I think the more expensive NZ Pinot is over rated but the entry stuff is good juice<br /><br />I like the 100point scale, I use it myself it gives me refrence but of course I never buy cases of wine based on one person score, maybe Westonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18125027693380601285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-34352898181237252112010-08-06T17:29:56.594-07:002010-08-06T17:29:56.594-07:00Re: biodynamic
Biodynamic happens in the vineyard...Re: biodynamic<br /><br />Biodynamic happens in the vineyard - not in the winery. Or so say my learned friends, without whom I would be way less interesting.<br /><br />Cheers to a very fun read. Not sure I'll ever buy into the Parker-ized points ratings; my ignorant taste buds like what they like, regardless of points. And I still actually *pay* for every bottle I taste...but I'm open toJeannettehttp://twitter.com/OkanaganWritingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-9435929525982563872010-08-06T16:01:00.998-07:002010-08-06T16:01:00.998-07:00Anon: I disagree with you on several counts.
How ...Anon: I disagree with you on several counts.<br /><br />How can you say no wine is worth more than $100? What if you were rich? What are you saving your money for, real estate?<br /><br />Also, wines with price tags over $100 have little to do with the cost of winemaking. Yes, they might have double-sorting tables and brand new oak barrels, but that's not why they're over $100; you can doW. Blake Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17755307711801965966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-40657906659720021562010-08-06T09:45:11.358-07:002010-08-06T09:45:11.358-07:00There is nothing organic about monoculture. The US...There is nothing organic about monoculture. The US organic growing rules are a joke!<br /><br />I agree with most of the 10 overrated wines. But I have to say that to me, the most overrated wines are the $100+ wines. No wine is worth more than $100! They have to charge more because of what they spent making the wine.This has nothing to do with the quality of the site and the grapes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-49690427540106059042010-08-06T09:07:01.520-07:002010-08-06T09:07:01.520-07:00@Jesse L
You drove it home, thank you. There'...@Jesse L<br /><br />You drove it home, thank you. There's a farming practice I have come to know called "sustainable/logical". Essentially, make the lightest footprint possible while ensuring the health of your vines and soil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-43872049819772000832010-08-06T06:46:30.807-07:002010-08-06T06:46:30.807-07:00I could have not said this better. My only additi...I could have not said this better. My only addition would be any wine with Brettanomyces, mostly we are talking Rhone, Bordeaux and Australian reds.Lucky13https://www.blogger.com/profile/13363538298062812542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-26749098958162825602010-08-05T23:15:56.423-07:002010-08-05T23:15:56.423-07:00A brief comment about the organic wine debate. It&...A brief comment about the organic wine debate. It's true that the US is one of the only (the only?) countries in the world which prohibits added sulfites to organic wine. This is tragic, since it hobbles the winemaker severely. Much better that a small amount of SO2 be used to keep the wine from spoiling quickly (Canadian organic wine allows 30 ppm free SO2) .<br /><br />I applaud the call toTilmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14857299050754485885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9210235767643862872.post-89460323711238646402010-08-05T20:00:09.208-07:002010-08-05T20:00:09.208-07:00@Adam - The author already hammered home the seman...@Adam - The author already hammered home the semantics issue "overrated" vs "terrible". It's already settled law that best practices in Vineyards and Winery aim for minimum usage of SO2 & other chemicals but frankly, if you know anything about the process to ensure the quality of their wines these practices are mostly required to some degree contingent upon Jesse Lnoreply@blogger.com